On Mar 28, 2008, Linda Fay said:
As Christians, we must stand up for Sally and the first amendment rights, or we will lose them. A prime example of this is Canada, where Focus on the Family is banned because of its Biblical stand on homosexuality. California is nearly there, as well. The homosexual agenda must not be allowed to prevail in labeling those who disagree with them as "homophobic" and shutting them down. Do we allow 10% of the population to dictate public policy? Why aren't the Christian organizations speaking up in her defense?
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On Mar 30, 2008, Paul said:
Mrs. Kern should run for Gov. Thanks for your heart and stand for all Oklahomans.
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On Apr 3, 2008, Eben Austin said:
I thank my GOD thank we have one voice crying loud
and sparing not.The homosexuial agenda is a bight on
America and the whole world. It's sin,sin,sin.....
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On Apr 6, 2008, Harry A Rockefeller said:
I believe what Sally said originally with her small change that "decade" should be "generation". Thus, Sally as well as the Baptist Messenger (BM) agree to the first part of her comment: "any society which condones homosexual behavior will incur God's wrath within a few generations". God may choose terrorism or economic catastrophe as well as a direct "act of God", i.e., natural calamity, to carry out His wrath. However, the comparison of fear of homosexuality vs terrorism has not been biblically expressed either by her or in the latest BM. Reading Romans 8:31 in the negative, "if God is against our culture, who can be for us?" means our society's condoning of homosexual behavior is more to be feared than even terrorism.
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On Apr 10, 2008, Jake Snodgrass said:
Here is the problem that I am seeing with our approach to the homosexual issue. We are tending as Christian conservatives to lose sight of the individual and fight against an ideal or an agenda. We attack the agenda but what we are failing to realize is that the world is not responding to our attacks well because the agenda's are representative of people. These people are hurting, dying and lost and we are marginalizing them. The Christian Gospel is that a Savior was put to death for our sins, all of them. We are called to go as Christ did to the lost both sacrificially and incarnationally. Are we 'filling up in our flesh what was lacking in Christ's afflictions' as Paul stated in Colossians? We must at a great cost to ourselves reach the lost at Christ. We do not succeed in reaching the lost by throwing moral darts from congressional meetings. For what it is worth, Christians are not called to save this nation. We are citizens of the Kingdom of Heaven we are called to reach the lost. Obviously we are called to seek the welfare of the city but we certainly are failing to take relevant strategies towards that aim.
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On Apr 15, 2008, Harry A Rockefeller said:
That's right I've changed the subject from homosexual behavior to something that is familiar to all Baptists. For the sake of argument let's only consider those fat by their own choice, not medical reasons, etc. Then there are 3 possible kinds of fat people. 1) Those who know overeating is bad. They perhaps have gone on diets and called them failures. Who knows? Maybe these diets have kept these fat people from becoming obese and dying an early death? 2) Those who by their actions and words claim fatness is great for themselves. They refuse advice from doctors and loved ones. Many die from obese related causes. Then there is category 3) Those who believe fatness is a valid lifestyle. They so much hate being told fatness is wrong they band together to convince others fatness is good. They want to teach your children that all and any candy craving is a good thing. Have all you want! I understand Sally was speaking mostly of 3) and perhaps some of 2). In fact, she was very sensitive toward 1). The major media does not allow this distinction.
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On Apr 16, 2008, Jeremy said:
There is an interesting dichotomy with free speech and the public platform that a politician inherits. That free speech, while protected and vital to our core American values, can and should not be used by all of these so called “Christian” politicians to mislead or misinform the public, incite bigotry, hate or intolerance. Our Christian beliefs supersede that of “Free Speech” and through her actions, Mrs. Kern has harmed Christians on the front line ministering to hard to reach groups such as homosexuals and those born and raised in Islam. She has driven more from Christ because she chose to inject her “Christian beliefs” into politics which most often do not go hand in hand.
One can condemn the sin in a much better fashion than Mrs. Kern. If we as a Church want to talk about the erosion of Judaeo-Christian values, we might first remove the speck from our heterosexual eyes which includes divorce rates that are crippling the American Family as well as an unprecedented adult and child abuse occurring here in our own state. We might remove our own greed that gets in the way of caring. We might follow in the footsteps of Christ who reached out to the adulteress, the poor, the needy, the lame and sick. I could equate that that Christ would have dinner with the gay couple with AIDS and love them and let his power of redemption change them, not the power of human words. It truly breaks my heart that a woman who wants to wear the mantle of Christian Crusader would approach the issue in a non-Christian way and then stick by her comments.
Further and inexplicability, Mrs. Kern says this is “about me, Kern told those at the rally. It's about the church having the right to speak out about the redeeming love of Jesus Christ who died to set us all free from our sins.” Regretfully her comments did not preach to Christ's redeeming love nor the ability to have redemption of sin. Instead it spoke of hate and equating a sinful lifestyle to murders such as those on 9/11 and Timothy McVeigh.
I think everyone should learn from the editorial from the Baptist Messenger entitled "Is it sin?" We must remove the log from our own eyes and so must Mrs. Kern.
Whether or not something is sin has become entangled in legalistic arguments over right and wrong rather than what the Bible says regarding the matter. For example, the issue of homosexuality has had a lot of publicity of late. Many homosexuals claim that being gay is not a sin. Scripture references condemning homosexuality are often ignored or loosely interpreted in order to justify a sinful lifestyle (see Leviticus 18:22, Leviticus 20:13 and Romans 1:26-27).
However, when it comes to sin, our opinion doesn't matter. What God calls sin is sin. Failing to see sin as God does is foolish. Romans 6:13 provides answers to our struggle with sin. "Do not offer the parts of your body to sin, as instruments of wickedness, but rather offer yourselves to God, as those who have been brought from death to life; and offer the parts of your body to Him as instruments of righteousness."
As Christians, we are not called to tolerate or accept sin, but we are called to proclaim forgiveness and freedom from sin as found only through faith in Jesus Christ.
As Baptists, we are big on reaching the world for Christ. In our eagerness, we must remember it is ineffective to share the love of Christ with a sinner when sins of hate, resentment and prejudice are at harbor in our own hearts.
The lost are often blamed for the current state of affairs. Christians often complain when the lost act lost. The real issue is that the body of Christ is failing to act like Christ. The Bible says they will know we are Christians by our love. Jesus summarized the law when he called on us to love God and love others.
The key to healing our nation is not found among the lost but among the Church. As 2 Chronicles 7:14 makes clear, "If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land."
The healing we long for will come only when the Church turns from its wicked ways. It is time we point our finger in the mirror and wrap our arms around a world desperate to know His love. “
Lastly,I hope the Baptist Messenger will stick by its editorial rather than promoting Mrs. Kern or other politicians who place political expediency bills designed for my Christian vote while killing my rights on not so hot topic bills.
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On Apr 21, 2008, Stephen Black said:
I would like the readers and listeners to know that Sally and her husband Steve Kern has supported First Stone Ministries and have put action to their faith in loving the person who struggles with homosexuality. We have a complete story about this, "The Untold Story About Sally Kern" on our web site, http://www.firststone.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=288&Itemid=211 and I have also posted it on my blogs: www.stephenblack.org and www.stevemanusa.vox.com . This just helps to clarify the motivation your interview was seeking.
Sincerely In His Love and Service,
Stephen Black, Exec. Director
First Stone Ministries,
Oklahoma City, OK
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